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The Value of the Mass
Up to our own times, it has been the constant concern of supreme pontiffs to ensure that the Church of Christ offers a worthy ritual to the Divine Majesty, 'to the praise and glory of His name,' and 'to the benefit of all His Holy Church - Pope Benedict XVI, Summorum Pontificum
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The Carmelite Monks in Wyoming (1962 missal):
http://www.carmelitemonks.org/
Carthusians (Carthusian Rite missal)
http://transfiguration.chartreux.org/index.htm
Canons Regular of the New Jerusalem:
http://www.canonsregular.com/
Thanks for the links Matt. Although, I'm not going to list the Canons Regular of the New Jerusalem because they have disbanded. Thanks for the others though!
BTW, Matt, I love your audio clip.
The Canons Regular disbanded? Why?
I'm not sure that the Carthusians are free of issues, but strictly cloistered Orders as a general rule survived the '70s better than the more apostolic ones.
I love that Simpsons quote. That's from back in the early seasons, when they still had decent writers like Conan O'Brien on staff.
Oh, and I forgot the Camaldolese hermits out by Steubenville, OH:
http://www.camaldolese.org/pages.php?pageid=7
Same caution as the Carthusians...but anyone who gets up at 3:30am to say the Angelus and Matins have to have their heads on relatively straight.
I'm not sure why the Canons disbanded in St. Louis. I guess their newsletter says that they're going to reconstitute in a year, but this will make the second time in ten years that they've reconstituted. I think that definately speaks to their stability.
BTW, Matt, where are you a seminarian at?
The Canons Regular of the New Jerusalem have NOT disbanded. I know because I am entering as a postulant in two weeks. They are having to temporarily leave St. Louis, but they are certainly still an Order, still attached to Archbishop Burke, and though next year will be a bit irregular with the seminarians studying at the Angelicum and Father and I living at a Norbertine Abbey as a guest community...the CRNJ is moving ahead with many prospects and is NOT disbanding at all, just transitioning to our next stage...which will hopefully include a permanent church (not just a chapel in a garage on land sold to make McMansions) and a womens' branch is in the works. Please list the canons, as they are not disbanding, and this rumor needs to be stopped and we need all the promotion and exposure we can get right now. Thanks.
They are not "reconstituting" in a year, and the last time you claim they "reconstituted" it was not a reconstitution either, merely a move. They moved from Lacrosse to St. Louis when Bishop Burke of Lacrosse got promoted to Archbishop of St. Louis and invited the canons to follow him, he being their juridical sponsor. They are incredibly stable and interdependant as a community, which is the only thing that has made surviving all these difficulties possible. They recently underwent an official outside canonical visitation, and their religious life was found to be excellent, especially for a community bombarded by so many troubles. The report was glowing, but contained some not completely unharsh words to the diocese for letting such an enthusiastic and observant Order be treated so flippantly. The diocese has sold their land, so they are taking up some temporary arrangements until the end of the academic year, when hopefully a permanent church and canonry will be found for us suitable for the old rite. They are not disbanding, not being reconstituted, not "taking a break"...the community and our projects are chugging along as ever even under difficult circumstances that have resulted from the stressful land sale, and from not being given the full support from the diocese that was implied before the move, often times being ignored in favor of the more high profile old rite community in town. As I said, they are taking a new novice (me) whose formation will be overseen by the CRNJ superior, even as we stay as guests at St. Michael's Abbey, and the two seminarians are going to get some valuable experience with "romanitas" studying at the Angelicaum for a year. Several loyal parishioners are also following the canons to California and whereever we wind up after that, including some women in the beginning stages of founding the womens' branch. Please, do not give up on the canons like this or speak so cynically of us. Thanks.
Ok, apparently I was misinformed about the Canons. I don't wish for my words to be taken harshly, as I am and have been for a while now, fans of the CRNJ.
On the other hand, they should seriously update their website. Most of the contact information on the site is no longer active, so even if I do list their site, I'm not sure how effective it will be.
Yes, but they are not computer whizzes, and I don't know how they made a website in the first place.
The mailing address should still be good, the mail will be forwarded. The website is how I found out about them.
I realise that their not comupter whizzes. Neither am I. I wasn't criticizing them, I was just stating that thier website is problematic. I know because I tried to get in contact with them about a month ago for vocation information and it took me forever to get a hold of them. Now that they've moved, all of the information on the website is outdated.
Fortunately, I was able to speak with a young brother and he said he was going to send me a packet with some information about them. I'm still waiting for it. I'm not trying to sound bitter, but if they're having vocation troubles, the difficulty in contacting and corresponding with them may be the problem.
I recommend a lot of orders listed in the sidebar of my group vocation blog under "men".
http://holyvocations.blogspot.com
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